Which winch is the best???

[whitehumh2]

On our recent Quebec Chapter Trail Scouting Day, we killed several winches and we were all suprised by winch ones died and which ones lived. So I am going to start off this topic to one see what every one thinks and then I will give very specific reasons as to why the winches that died would die no matter what and why the ones that lived will live no matter what. Also I will give any potential winch buyers the keys to choosing the right winch for the right job!



Enjoy!



Kev

[shotgun-cam]

Nice idea to give winch advice scene to many buying light weight atv winches  for trucks.

[Roy]

Good info in old topics page  9  .

[dwaxman1]

I have to say that I like my WARN...

[whitehumh2]

Ok here are some important links for info on winches.



http://www.offroaders.com/tech/winches/Winch-Tech.htm



http://www.offroaders.com/tech/winches/ ... onents.htm



Please read everything carefully!



Kev

[whitehumh2]

Ok, the first rule of thumb when selecting a winch is not whether we choose electric or hydraulic, or one company or another, but we is the rated line pull. (Just in case you need to better understand the terms I refer too here is a link that will help; http://www.offroaders.com/tech/winches/ ... nology.htm )



Now to determine the appropriate rated line pull for your Hummer you need to do the following:



1. Determine the G.V.W.R.- Gross Vehicle Weight Ratio, notice this is not the curb weight as that will vary for every one depending on equipment, the GVWR is the max rating of the chassis without trailer but with a full load of fuel, passengers, and stuff. On most vehicles the curb weight and the GVWR can be different from 1500lbs to 6000lbs!



For those who don't want to spend time looking for data, here you go:



GVWR for H3: 6000lbs.

GVWR for H2: 8600lbs.

GVWR for H1: 10,300lbs or 10,800lbs or 12,100lbs (but most civilian H1s are either 10,300 or 10,800 the 12,100 where mostly fleet)



2. Now with the above info mulitiply the GVWR by 1.5 and you get the minimum recommended winch for your Hummer.



So let's do the math:



H3 = 6000 x 1.5 = 9000lbs minimum rated line pull.



H2 = 8600 x 1.5 = 12900lbs minimum rated line pull (closest winch would be a 12500lbs rating)



H1 = 10300 x 1.5 = 15450lbs minimum rated line pull (closest winch would be a 15000lbs rating)



Now I know many of you are already PMing me a very nasty letter since these numbers don't match what the factory installs but that is because cost is a factor, nothing else and one other factor also comes into play...most people won't use the winch often enough nor in extreme enough conditions to really "see" the difference and in most cases they would just chalk it up to some other reason for the poor perfromance or total failure of the winch.



3. Now that you have gotten pass the shock start shopping and remember "Bigger is Better" when it comes to choosing a winch!



4. If you already have a winch their is no need to wallow in a puddle of tears, unless of course yours really really really sucks! <img src='http://www.canadianhummerclub.com/forum ... >/grin.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=';D' /> Remember you can always compensate for a weak winch by using a snatch block but I will get to that.



So as the first installment, hope this helps to stimulate the topic and stay tuned!



Kev





PS: BTW D...WARN SUCK!!!! <img src='http://www.canadianhummerclub.com/forum ... >/grin.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=';D' /> <img src='http://www.canadianhummerclub.com/forum ... >/grin.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=';D' /> <img src='http://www.canadianhummerclub.com/forum ... >/grin.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=';D' /> <img src='http://www.canadianhummerclub.com/forum ... >/grin.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=';D' />

[dwaxman1]

not nice.. kev.. not nice!

[citiboy]

D,



i have to agree with Kevin, Warn Winch SUCK PERIOD.  <img src='http://www.canadianhummerclub.com/forum ... /angry.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt='>:(' /> <img src='http://www.canadianhummerclub.com/forum ... /angry.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt='>:(' /> <img src='http://www.canadianhummerclub.com/forum ... /angry.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt='>:(' /> I regret buying this POS winch, because it has a built-in air compressor that's the only reason i've bought it. Two months old. It died on me on a very time i needed the most. Still on the repair shop. All the gears we're destroyed.  <img src='http://www.canadianhummerclub.com/forum ... lleyes.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt='::)' /> <img src='http://www.canadianhummerclub.com/forum ... lleyes.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt='::)' /> <img src='http://www.canadianhummerclub.com/forum ... lleyes.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt='::)' /> Warn doesn't have return or exchange policy.



Anybody wants to buy a POS Warn Powerplant HD winch on multi mount portable system, rated at 12000lbs of bullsh*t.  <img src='http://www.canadianhummerclub.com/forum ... /angry.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt='>:(' /> <img src='http://www.canadianhummerclub.com/forum ... /angry.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt='>:(' /> <img src='http://www.canadianhummerclub.com/forum ... /angry.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt='>:(' />. Let me know.

[Roy]

Just bought another MM 12000 for a spare.Just in case someone  breaks down. Will be set up with a 2" receiver and quick disconnect cable ends.



Everyone ready for another trail !! Bug nets for everyone -- any one have a good supplier of these??



Off to Boston this weekend. Anyone know how to get in touch with the NEHOG. Anyone else for a tour ??

[shotgun-cam]

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