winches
- Roy
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winches
looking for info on winches for my h1<div>I've looked at Tmax, Warn, Milemarker(all electric) with prices ranging from $570 to $2800. all with the same rating. Anyone have much to comment on the differneces.Not an every weekender offroader. Need something just in case i get careless. </div><edited><editID>njlondon</editID><editDate>2008-05-19 15:07:39</editDate></edited>
- 98hmc4
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Re: winches
Have you considered using a hydrulic? I am in the winch market as well and have decided to go with a hydrulic Milemarker. They are lighter(you do not need to upgrade the front springs), do not change your approach angle, do not over heat...
- Roy
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Re: winches
Thought about hydraulic , but if by chance the motor stalls out, I hope the electric would still operate , even submerged( not sure thou). <DIV>I have read that you should update the front springs ,</DIV><DIV>- for the 165# of weight, I probably will not. </DIV><DIV> -may be do to the load when pulling yourself out of a hole, probably would then , if I were to do a lot more offroading.</DIV>
- whitehumh2
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Re: winches
I will soon be running a Milemarker 12000lbs hydraulic up front and an Electric T-MAx 10000lbs in the rear. Presently I just swap the T-max from front to rear as needed. Once I get my road armor bumpers the Milemarker will permanently be installed up front and the rear will then have a permanent T-max housed back there...no more lugging a heavy winch from front to rear or vice versa on the trail!<DIV> </DIV><DIV>That way I get the best of both worlds! Because like you I worry about a stall and not being able to pull myself out, but there are times when you can't beat the continuous pulling power of a hydraulic even though to date I have never had a problem with my T-Max even at max distance and max rated pulls of my H2.</DIV><DIV> </DIV><DIV>Kevin</DIV>
- njlondon
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Re: winches
I run a MileMarker. Didn't need to change springs. With a diesel, you are unlikely to stall.
And I have been in scouting trips when Warn electrics failed dismally. I remember the one where we got shot at (another story) when we were 5 H1's (before the H2's time), and my MileMarker and one other Warn worked. The others overheated and stopped. We were in some serious stuff, and got home at 4:00 am, after the OPP interviews.
The thing is, my MileMarker just won't stop pulling. Add a snatchblock, and you can haul most anything out, if you have the back of your truck chained to a bunch of trucks or something.
And I have been in scouting trips when Warn electrics failed dismally. I remember the one where we got shot at (another story) when we were 5 H1's (before the H2's time), and my MileMarker and one other Warn worked. The others overheated and stopped. We were in some serious stuff, and got home at 4:00 am, after the OPP interviews.
The thing is, my MileMarker just won't stop pulling. Add a snatchblock, and you can haul most anything out, if you have the back of your truck chained to a bunch of trucks or something.
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- whitehumh2
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Re: winches
Another important point, and I'm sure that Norm will agree, the milemarker winch will also maintain a much better approach angle. Stock no winch is 72 degrees, Factory Warn winch 47 degrees but the Milemarker maintains 67.5 degrees. So if you do alot of trails where approach angles are critical then the Milemarker wins hands down! Also I agree with Norm I have seen so many Warn winches burn up that I wonder how they still have people that are loyal to them. My T-Max has never given me even one hint of a problem and I love it but....It doesn't fit inside my Road Armor bumper that I will be installing!!! So in goes the Milemarker Hydraulic that the bumper is design for anyways. And Norm I'd really like to hear the rest of the story! And I'd really like to see some pictures!!!
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Re: winches
Give me a call for the story.
You are very correct about me forgetting to mention the
advantage of the MM winch in maintaining the approach angle.
That is a huge reason to select the MileMarker.
<edited><editID>njlondon</editID><editDate>2008-05-17 14:44:07</editDate></edited>
You are very correct about me forgetting to mention the
advantage of the MM winch in maintaining the approach angle.
That is a huge reason to select the MileMarker.
<edited><editID>njlondon</editID><editDate>2008-05-17 14:44:07</editDate></edited>
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Re: winches
I have an electric Warn and a hydrualic mile marker both of which I use a fair amount for short pulls (on different trucks) . They work the same from my perspective except that the warn is heavier (and needs a spring change). For long pulls, the warn does have some duty cycle factors that you have to be aware of as it heats up under high load. Also as noted,the approach angle is reduced with the warn electric but the extra bumper that sticks out might be useful in some domestic crash (or push) situations. Given that most people might use the winch a few times a year (at most), you might want to factor the cost into the selection criteria as the cost per use might end up being quite high :-.