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Alberta Land Stewardship

Posted: Sun Oct 16, 2011 11:17 pm
by Sugarphreak
I figured I would start a fresh thread for this. It kind of stems from the other thread where another club was clearly abusing and destroying the environment.



Introduction:

We have been pretty lucky here in Southern Alberta to have not one, but two huge designated off-road parks. However if you go back a few years, we used to have 3 of them, not only that we had significantly more trail access within the remaining two.



Mud bogging through sensitive muskeg areas, irresponsible destruction of the ground and a general misuse of the areas by a small minority of idiots is what led to the trail and park closures we see today.



Awareness:

One thing we should start to focus on is getting new members aware of what is and is not acceptable on the trail. There are a lot of SRD rules that apply to us on the trail. I figure the most effective way is to give a handout or quick speal on official club runs. We could also post it in the first post of any runs we setup on here.



Public Perception:

This is probably the hardest thing for our club to cope with, harder than most other clubs for sure. We should really start to be more careful about what goes online and who has access to it. One thing that has plagued the larger clubs is scape-goating by the media. A journalist eager to break a controversial story need look no further than a pack of Hummers. Even a few pictures or videos of legal activity could be used against us. As you can see with that other club, people took special interest in getting them fired from their jobs and now the push is on to have them prosecuted by SRD (Alberta Sustainable Resource Development). NOT the kind of interest we want!!



Positive Action:

So far because we are a much smaller club we haven't really been involved in some of the trail restoration or other projects going on in our areas. That doesn't mean we can't start doing something about it though. I think we should take a serious look at joining up with CT4WD or CJA for some of these projects.



Another option is to come up with a plan ourselves and follow through. It could be as simple as a garbage cleanup, or we can get in contact with SRD directly and apply for a permit to go in and repair parts of the trail which are torn up badly.





Thoughts?

I'd like to hear some feedback. My major concern here is the small size of our group. Then again we have some big hearts in our club, I know I would be in for a weekend once a year to help keep our trails open.

Re: Alberta Land Stewardship

Posted: Mon Oct 17, 2011 12:26 am
by Khamul
i think that is a really good idea.



the video in question is already gone and i had a quick look at that website's main page... a group like that will be gone soon just out of backlash but it is important for us to distance ourselves from people like that and doing the absolute opposite is a good way to do it.



a trail clean up day is an awesome idea. trail restoration however needs machinery which we simply do not have..



alot of damage is done by weekend quaders as well, especially garbage...



question is..... how do we organize?

Re: Alberta Land Stewardship

Posted: Mon Oct 17, 2011 9:36 am
by dwaxman1
I would be up for a trip out to assist with this if the timing would work out...

Re: Alberta Land Stewardship

Posted: Mon Oct 17, 2011 10:43 am
by Sugarphreak
[quote name='Khamul' timestamp='1318825566' post='31446']

i think that is a really good idea.



the video in question is already gone and i had a quick look at that website's main page... a group like that will be gone soon just out of backlash but it is important for us to distance ourselves from people like that and doing the absolute opposite is a good way to do it.



a trail clean up day is an awesome idea. trail restoration however needs machinery which we simply do not have..



alot of damage is done by weekend quaders as well, especially garbage...



question is..... how do we organize?

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I am not entirely sure how to organize, I was thinking about contacting SRD and seeing if they could reccomend something we could tackle.



Obviously we don't have the capacity/funds/tools to deal with putting in a bridge on our own, but we could join up with one of the other clubs for that.



Smaller things like trail repairs or installing culverts really just require some fill, shovels and maybe a compactor. I think we could probably take on something like that. The only wild card there is we probably need liability insurance through CHC.



A garbage cleanup is probably the quickest way for us to get involved, a couple of poker sticks and gloves are all we need, no permits required and as long as one of us has a truck (cough cough, H3T) we can just fill garbage bags and throw it in the back.



Also whatever we choose, we should get a banner as well for the club so we can get some promotional shots of the good stuff we do.



Some good palces to start:

http://www.abprojects.org

http://www.ab4wd.com/Reviving.html

http://www.aurs.org

Re: Alberta Land Stewardship

Posted: Mon Oct 17, 2011 12:07 pm
by thedub
What if we were to set this up by provence first and get members on board.

We could then arrange road trips to other provinces to do it on a national level once we sort out any details?



It has a number of benefits for all involved, we promote the sport and brand locally and nationally in a positive way for all to see, we all give back to something we love and we have a great excuse for a road trip!



Take it one step further, if enough of us are on a road trip and one of the local members want to arrange a trip for their children's class, we pack them in and have some off road fun and a clean up all in one go, apart from the fun for the kids (big and small <img src='http://www.canadianhummerclub.com/forum ... oflmao.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':rotflmao:' /> ) the publicity would be good for us?

Seriously, I'm sure we have all dropped our kids to school in our trucks and we see the faces of all the other kids!! imagine them when we are charging through mud off road?

Re: Alberta Land Stewardship

Posted: Mon Oct 17, 2011 1:19 pm
by dwaxman1
Who would like to champion this??

Re: Alberta Land Stewardship

Posted: Mon Oct 17, 2011 1:42 pm
by Sugarphreak
I think me and Dave could setup a garbage cleanup for next spring. The snow will be falling pretty quick here so it won't do much good until it is gone again.



I will also keep an eye on the other club boards for some of the larger projects that we could join in and help with. Usually they are just a day or weekend and the work goes quickly with 20 or 30 people helping. It also puts us in line with some of the other clubs which is important. That way we can stand united against as a responcible off-road community.



[quote name='martdedub' timestamp='1318867668' post='31455']

What if we were to set this up by provence first and get members on board.

We could then arrange road trips to other provinces to do it on a national level once we sort out any details?



It has a number of benefits for all involved, we promote the sport and brand locally and nationally in a positive way for all to see, we all give back to something we love and we have a great excuse for a road trip!



Take it one step further, if enough of us are on a road trip and one of the local members want to arrange a trip for their children's class, we pack them in and have some off road fun and a clean up all in one go, apart from the fun for the kids (big and small <img src='http://www.canadianhummerclub.com/forum ... oflmao.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':rotflmao:' /> ) the publicity would be good for us?

Seriously, I'm sure we have all dropped our kids to school in our trucks and we see the faces of all the other kids!! imagine them when we are charging through mud off road?

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I like this idea, doing it on a national level would be a great idea. The only downside is it might be tough though for some to travel. I'd be in for a road trip to Ontario next spring though.

Re: Alberta Land Stewardship

Posted: Mon Oct 17, 2011 4:06 pm
by dwaxman1
Let me know.. I would be happy to support this going forward...and we would for sure get involved from a Club level as well as a individual level...

Re: Alberta Land Stewardship

Posted: Mon Oct 17, 2011 7:43 pm
by Khamul
this sounds more and more promising!!.. i'm down for whatever we do...



cleanup i think is definitely tye best way to start, and then coordinate with the local provincial governments along with other clubs fro then on...



i don't know about the other provinces, but the CHC is rather low-key here so this would be the best way to start, get some media coverage as well to help promote. we should also coordinate banners we can put on the side of our vehicles as well for this... magnetic would be best i guess...



they won't be cheap so i'll definitely chip in and buy a few for alberta once we decide, something generic like " CHC - looking after our environment" or something along that line...

Re: Alberta Land Stewardship

Posted: Mon Oct 17, 2011 9:21 pm
by thedub
[quote name='Sugarphreak' timestamp='1318873370' post='31458']





I like this idea, doing it on a national level would be a great idea. The only downside is it might be tough though for some to travel. I'd be in for a road trip to Ontario next spring though.

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I think we would all like a road trip to some degree, we may surprise ourselves at how many would be willing to do it, given enough time.