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priuseater
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H1 steering knock

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Well guys im back at it agian. Ive been chasing down a steering clunck thats been driving me nuts, and just wondering if others are having the same problem or if its just me.



About a month ago, i started to get this steering clunk when went over bumps or potholes in the road. And it progressively got worst in a matter of days. Wierd i thought, maby time to do the pitman and idler arm, i didnt know how long the old ones were on there for, and they didnt seem to be the new style moog problem solver, thought it would be a good weekend project. BTW Thanks to Derek for hooking me up for parts in such a short notice <img src='http://www.canadianhummerclub.com/forum ... ght_on.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':right_on:' /> . I was advoiding driving my truck any far distance for fear of the idler arm letting go.



I spent the weekend replacing the pitman arm and idler arm. They seemed a bit warn, the idler arm had a bit of play in the lower ball joint, put the new ones in, looking good!. I also checked the play and preload on the steering box, it looked good to go. So i elimiated all variables of knock. (the tie rods looked to be ok (they look original), but i have new ones on the way, probably do them in the spring with an alignment) So take it for a spin, seems much better, but had a little hint of a clunk. <img src='http://www.canadianhummerclub.com/forum ... #>/dry.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt='<_<' /> Ok so drive it to work the next day, sure enough the clunk is back. <img src='http://www.canadianhummerclub.com/forum ... /angry.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':angry:' /> The steering has no play in it, but if you quickly jar it (when parked) you could hear the knock.. when you went over bumps the knock felt like it was right at your go fast foot. Kinda wierd.



So after fiddling around checking all the steering joints from the steering wheel to the everything seemed ok. But as i was checking with a flash light, i was looking at the steering shaft right before it goes into the tunnel (theres a rubber boot that comes into the cab that the steering shaft goes through. I could see the shaft "slider" moving up and down slightly when i turned the wheel. AH HA! i found the clunk. So... theres gotta be a grease fitting on it to snug it up. Nope!



I looked through the service manual, and fig 1-30 shows the steering shaft, and GREESE FITTINGS!??

Where are mine! <img src='http://www.canadianhummerclub.com/forum ... /blink.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':blink:' />



Just wondering if anyone elses is like this?. I would love to drill the tube and put a grease fitting on it, but dont feel too keen on the ideal, i have the proper fittings, and would only take a second. The upper and lower ones are there though.


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[center] 2002 10th Anniversay H1 - Desert Sunset - #21 of 65[/center]
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Re: H1 steering knock

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This help any?
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Re: H1 steering knock

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Helps me as I have a clunk there also..helps me to think that I am not crazy...Image
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Re: H1 steering knock

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We own Hummers, we're long past the allegedly crazy phase, and deep into the certified nuts stage. <img src='http://www.canadianhummerclub.com/forum ... oflmao.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':rotflmao:' /> <img src='http://www.canadianhummerclub.com/forum ... adbang.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':headbang:' />
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Re: H1 steering knock

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[quote name='Hesh' timestamp='1320162499' post='32034']

We own Hummers, we're long past the allegedly crazy phase, and deep into the certified nuts stage. <img src='http://www.canadianhummerclub.com/forum ... oflmao.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':rotflmao:' /> <img src='http://www.canadianhummerclub.com/forum ... adbang.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':headbang:' />

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Yep, any sane person would of gone back to a "regular" mode of transportation <img src='http://www.canadianhummerclub.com/forum ... rgreen.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':mrgreen:' />



Well guys i feel like such a idiot, because i "think" i just figured out what it is, ill update once i drive home tonight and see if its fixed <img src='http://www.canadianhummerclub.com/forum ... adbang.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':headbang:' />



As for the steering shaft, i dont have #10, or even a hole for that setscrew/fitting to go in
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Re: H1 steering knock

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LOL! found out what it was.



About 3 weeks ago, i sprayed a can of the rust check around the front bush gard. I also sprayed the pins a bit. They had a good buildup of old hard grease and were a bit stiff to pull out. Well sure enough as the old grease softened up, it gave the pin a bit of play, and now the bush guard would rock back and forth when going over bumps, because its attached to the frame, you would really feel it in the lower foot well (felt just like a loose steering box)



As you sped up, the knocking was less noticable. more wind was pushing on the bar, perventing it from rocking foward and backwards.



Now im trying to make up a small spring or bumper that will hold it snug. <img src='http://www.canadianhummerclub.com/forum ... adbang.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':headbang:' />



All is good in the hood, absoluetly everything works properly now <img src='http://www.canadianhummerclub.com/forum ... rgreen.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':mrgreen:' />
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[center] 2002 10th Anniversay H1 - Desert Sunset - #21 of 65[/center]
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Re: H1 steering knock

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Giverdiesel: All H1s have the same steering set-up. The upper steering joint in the picture is a bitch to get to. If you lie half-upside down under the steering wheel with the access panel removed, the joint and zerkel can be seen but it's really hard to get a grease gun on without removing the whole panel under the steering wheel. You may have to turn the steering wheel to see the zerkel. This is the most negelected grease point so the joint can fail and end up with play.



Another possible source of a clunk by your foot could be a loose body mount or a broken/loose engine mount. I hope it really is just your bush bar. I fixed mine by putting a thick strip of rubber in mount on each side that compresses when the bar is put in place.
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