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So recently some of our Québec Members (Tony and others) have had the unfortunate experience of getting pulled over for the lack of mud flaps on their Hummers.

 

The interesting thing is that while it is a law almost all the way across Canada...we rarely ever hear anything about it!

 

For some reason the Highway Safety Inspectors and the Provincial Police seem to be all over this in Québec!

 

The sad part is that they happen to be picking on Offroad Vehicles but fail to realize that 90% of Pick-ups and SUVs are illegal in this respect the moment they are built and sold!

 

Here is a excert of the law copied from one of our Québec Forums;

En ce qui concerne les garde-boues, ils se doivent d’avoir la largeur de la semelle du pneu , sinon le véhicule doit être muni de garde boue mobile. Article 272 du de la sécurité routière (À l’exception de la machine agricole non équipée par le fabricant de garde-boue, les véhicules automobiles et les ensembles de véhicules routiers qui ne sont pas équipés de garde-boue permanents ou qui sont équipés de garde-boue permanents d’une largeur inférieure à celle de la semelle du pneu ou dont la partie arrière est à plus de 350 mm du sol lorsque le véhicule n’est pas chargé doivent être munis de garde-boue mobiles, en matière résistante et d’une largeur au moins égale à celle de la semelle des pneus.) Contravention 30$ à 60$. Assurez-vous que le garde-boue couvre « la semelle » et non toute la largeur du pneu. Il est de même pour les ailes de votre véhicule. Donc, les petits crampons sur le côtés de votre pneu qui dépassent les ailes ou le garde-boue sont légaux… mais pas ceux sur le semelle… on se suit.
 
So a couple of things to note;
 
1. If you tires stick out past you fenders you can be fined!
 
2. Mudflaps must be no more than 350mm from the ground when the vehicle is unloaded.
 
3. ALL Stock Pickup trucks and most SUVs are illegal according to this law if not equipped with mudflaps!
 
4. Mudflaps must be the width of the tire.
 
Some things to consider;
 
1. This is a good law, it does protect the windshield of the car following you from most things that could be kicked up.
 
2. The mudflaps do not need to be permanently fixed in place...they can be removable.
 
3. They don't have to be flexible rubber...they can be made of anything!
 
 
So since mudflaps would get torn off my H2 when offroad, I made a removable set out of plastic. I made them so that they are at 280mm just to avoid any issues with being close to the limit of 350mm! I made them from 1/4" black plastic. They are one bolt on/off.
 
I would rather be legal than waste the time of having to deal with the police and to get a ticket!
 
 
Btw, ask Tony to tell you his story about this...it is Super Funny!

Here is Some info for Onatrio

<a href="http://www.of4wd.com/pdf/ontario_highwa ... act.pdf</a>

A quick exert;

66.(3) Mudguards Everyone’s favourite, I’ll just give you the exact text on this one:
Every motor vehicle and every trailer shall be equipped with mudguards or fenders or other device adequate to reduce effectively the wheel spray or splash of water from the roadway to the rear thereof, unless adequate protection is afforded by the body of the motor vehicle or trailer or by a trailer drawn by the motor vehicle.
So you could argue that anything that “effectively reduces” the spray should be legal.
66.(4) Exception to 66.(3) (You’ll like this one) You don’t need mud flaps and/or your fenders don’t have to cover your tires if you’re vehicle is “unfinished” and you’re on your way to someplace to finish it.

Actually Here is All provinces at a quick Glance from another forum;


Fenders by province, collected 12 October 2007


BC - Motor Vehicle Act, MOTOR VEHICLE ACT REGULATIONS

Mudguards

7.06 Every motor vehicle, trailer and semitrailer not constructed so that the spray and splash of water and mud to the rear of the vehicle is minimized shall be equipped with mudguards and, if necessary, mudflaps.


Alberta - ALBERTA REGULATION 322/2002 ,Traffic Safety Act, VEHICLE EQUIPMENT REGULATION

Mudguards.

64 The body of a motor vehicle or trailer or a fender, mudguard or similar structure must cover the width of the tire and extend to the mid‑point of the axle when viewed from behind the vehicle.


Saskatchewan -T-18.1 - Traffic Safety Act - V-2.1 REG 10 VEHICLE EQUIPMENT, 1987

Fenders or mudflaps

52(1) Subject to subsections (2) and (3), the vehicle shall have, for each tire, a fender, mudflap or body overhang that:

(a) reduces the rearward projection of gravel, mud, water and snow from the tire;

( is located so that the lowest point of the fender, mudflap or body overhang is above the ground a distance that is not greater than two thirds of the horizontal distance from that point to the centre of the wheel; and

(c) extends across the full width of the tire.

(2) The requirements of subsection (1) apply to wheels on steering axles only when the wheels are in the straight ahead position.

(3) Subsection (1) does not apply to a modified vintage vehicle when the vehicle is being operated on a dry, paved surface.


Manitoba –Highway Traffic Act

SPLASHGUARDS OR FENDERS

Splashguards required

48 Every motor vehicle and every trailer, except a farm trailer, shall, when upon a highway, be equipped with splashguards or fenders adequate to reduce effectively the wheel spray or splash of water from the roadway to the rear thereof, unless adequate protection is afforded by the body of the motor vehicle or trailer or by a trailer drawn by the motor vehicle; and the splashguard shall comply with the standards prescribed therefor under the regulations.


Ontario - Highway Traffic Act R.S.O. 1990, CHAPTER H.8

Mudguards

(3) Every motor vehicle and every trailer shall be equipped with mudguards or fenders or other device adequate to reduce effectively the wheel spray or splash of water from the roadway to the rear thereof, unless adequate protection is afforded by the body of the motor vehicle or trailer or by a trailer drawn by the motor vehicle. R.S.O. 1990, c. H.8, s. 66 (3).

Exception

(4) Subsection (3) does not apply to motor vehicles or trailers in an unfinished condition while proceeding to a works for completion. R.S.O. 1990, c. H.8, s. 66 (4).


Quebec

I was unable to locate appropriate resources


New Brunswick - CHAPTER M-17 Motor Vehicle Act

The act contains no references to Fenders or Mud Guards


Nova Scotia - Motor Vehicle Act CHAPTER 293 OF THE REVISED STATUTES, 1989

Dropping contents of vehicle and mudguards

199 (2) Every motor vehicle and every trailer shall be equipped with mudguards, fenders or flaps adequate to reduce effectively the wheel spray or splash of water from the roadway to the rear of the vehicle or trailer, unless the spray or splash is effectively reduced by the body of the vehicle or trailer or by a trailer drawn by the vehicle.


PEI – Highway Traffic Act

<a href="http://www.gov.pe.ca/law/statutes/pdf/h ... -05.pdf</a>

Can only find a reference saying it’s “unlawful to splash pedestrians or others”


Newfoundland and Labrador - CONSOLIDATED NEWFOUNDLAND REGULATION 1007/96 Licensing and Equipment Regulations under the Highway Traffic Act (O.C. 96‑211)

Other equipment


32. (7) A motor vehicle and a trailer shall be equipped with mudguards or fenders adequate to reduce effectively the wheel spray or splash of water from the roadway to the rear of the vehicle or trailer, unless adequate protection is afforded by the body of the motor vehicle or trailer or by a trailer drawn by the motor vehicle.

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So more mods?

So more mods?

As you know...I am ALWAYS moding my H2!

Very true. I just replaced my engine (again) with some upgrades and in the summer the truck needs a paint job. Plus replace the roof with my spare.

I was done for no mud flaps here in Alberta, as well as wheels sticking out past the arches, I had to put wide arches on my H2 and custom made some mud flaps. 
 
My H2 has a 6" lift and 38's
 
Section 64, I remember that very well as I went to court about it and they dropped it the first 4 times, the 5th time the cop wrote up a big list of all the laws and it was waiting for me with the magistrate, so I had to fix it, after fitting everything I had to take it to the police station and get the officer that gave me the ticket to inspect it, then back to court and was all dropped.
 
I was pulled over 5 times in total in just over a year.
 
3 days after getting the H1, I was pulled over for illegal tint on the front windows, which I peeled off and they dropped the charges again.

wow thats crazy  ...I have owned my H2 for over five years now and Ive only been pulled over once in that time  and it was for my illegal tint ....funny part was it was a guy with a laser that radioed ahead and the guy ran out and pulled me over and the first thing out of his mouth was "nice truck" ..we spend the next 10 mins talking about what mods i had and then he just passes back my ID and info and said I could go ...I was like no ticket ? he just said no Im not gonna give you one but I had to keep ya long enough so all the other cops thought that I gave ya one ...even as i drove away he said nice truck again ..but they never said nothing about my fendor flares and mudflaps not covering my tires ...knock on wood i dont jinx myself now and I start getting pulled over lol ...funny part is too is that my mudflaps are usually the big joke with my friends because i still have the original mudflaps on and they look ridiculous next to my tires lol 
     
 

Your mudflaps are definitely do not cover your tires full width!

Man the way yoour tires stick out, you would have the whole fleet of cops following you around here!

Have you ever considered a set of E&G Classics large fender flares??? I have them on mine and they keep me legal and pretty clean too!

ya I want a set of the E & G's but right now Im ripping apart my stock flares and parts of my truck . Like Ive seen a couple of guys down in the states running 40's with the same 6" fabteck lift I have and looks like they dont rip apart their flares. I get some good rubbing now with my 38's. Once I fix the rubbing issue Ill pick up a set of those E&G flares , they look sharp on the H2 ....oh and maybe Ill get some new mudflaps lol . i should probably buy them sooner then later , as Im sure they dont have much stock left .