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What size recovery strap and shackle do you guys recommend? I know Montana was running around trying to find one, but I can't remember what size you all had suggested to her.



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Depends on the situation. a 3"x30' strap would be a good all around (for self-recovery and other vehicles), but I typically carry a 2"x30' for smaller vehicle recoveries. I personally dont like using the 3/4 shackles/d-rings/clevises and only run 7/8 in most cases on my truck, but I dont think you'd be in serious danger using a 3/4 clevis, depending on its rating.



Dont use a tow strap, make sure it is a recovery/snatch strap (has elasticity to it), and ensure you dont have hooked/metal ends on it. Also, whenever possible do everything you can to keep from attaching two straps together with a clevis in the middle, for if one should break, that clevis will be come a projectile.



Here are a couple good videos to learn about straps and recovery:





How to choose the proper strap - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6AQoBkDREwo



How to safely use a recovery strap - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vWlcGCzbyLo
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Depends on the situation. a 3"x30' strap would be a good all around (for self-recovery and other vehicles), but I typically carry a 2"x30' for smaller vehicle recoveries. I personally dont like using the 3/4 shackles/d-rings/clevises and only run 7/8 in most cases on my truck, but I dont think you'd be in serious danger using a 3/4 clevis, depending on its rating.



Dont use a tow strap, make sure it is a recovery/snatch strap (has elasticity to it), and ensure you dont have hooked/metal ends on it. Also, whenever possible do everything you can to keep from attaching two straps together with a clevis in the middle, for if one should break, that clevis will be come a projectile.





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OK, great Hesh thanks a lot. a 3"x30' with loops on the end, no metel, is exactly what I was looking at, then for a shackle was looking at a 1", but thought that might be major over kill (not that, that is a bad thing though). So I wasn't far off. Excellent, now I'll go watch the videos. <img src='http://www.canadianhummerclub.com/forum ... ght_on.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':right_on:' />
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Princess Auto, if you have one in your area is a great place to pick one up. Theyre regular $69.95 but commonly go on sale for $50-ish.



Let me know if there is anything else I can help with, safe recovery on the trails is an absolutely vital part of positive offroading. Too often we overlook the risks and dangers that can come about when something is overlooked.
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I agree with Hesh.. on both....there are a lot of Straps on the market..and there is some skills to make sure yours is still good... anyways let me know if you have issues locally Brian.. I can point you in the right direction if need be.
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BTW for anyone else assembling some recovery gear, especially with Winter on our doorstep, this was a good thread about what similiar owners on here have kept on hand. Bear in mind some of the people in the thread have gone above and beyond what you'll need, and are artists of the "Be Prepared" mantra, but you can get a good idea of what might be useful and handy to have accessible or onhand for runs, blizzards, etc





http://www.canadianhummerclub.com/forum ... very-gear/
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One motto I follow when it comes to recovery gear is Bigger is Better! My snatch strap is rated at 52,000lbs at 20% strecth and IF you are hooked to the other end, I don't care how stuck you are you are coming out!!!! I like HESH don't use any shackles smaller than 7/8", most of mine are 1 1/8", hey for a few dollars more why not have unbreakable strength!



For really good recovery/snatch straps consider one of the following;



ARB or VIKING: both have special indicators woven into the strap to tell you if you have over pulled.

http://www.winchline.com/towlines.html





MasterPull and BubbaRope; both have super strong, super elastic snatch straps...a great investment!



http://www.masterpull.com/cpage.cfm?cpid=425



http://www.bubbarope.com/4x4-products



Actually if you wanted to be able to pull out that stuck D11T you could even get up to a 131,500lbs rated snatch strap!!



Have fun shopping!
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One motto I follow when it comes to recovery gear is Bigger is Better! My snatch strap is rated at 52,000lbs at 20% strecth and IF you are hooked to the other end, I don't care how stuck you are you are coming out!!!!

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Not to be a dink, but the Bigger is Better motto is not true, despite being a common misconception. Using too thick/strong a strap can and will damage the other vehicle depending on the size of the vehicles. With a strap that strong, more inertia and weight is needed to stretch the strap, and as such when the mobile vehicle gets to the end of the strap there will be no elasticity, and it will feel like hitting a brick wall, potentially (I have seen it) causing frame twisting/damage.



Perfect example, me and the local boys went to an old Quarry/4x4 park last year and had a blast in some of the new snowfall we had dumped. It wasnt long before I got bogged down, literally, in a peat-bog and no forward or backward motion could be had. Any time I'd hit the gas, Id just dig down deeper.



What I figured might be of some value to this thread is that in my recovery kit I first grabbed my 4" x 30' strap and hooked it up to a TJ who was wanting to help pull/tug me out. While he was able to budge and nudge me a bit, we werent getting anywhere, and there was a sizeable 1-2' drop Id have to overcome to get out of the bog. The strap and the vehicle were simply not cutting it, and the Jeep owner claimed that hitting the end of the strap on his side was in his words "like hitting a brick wall."



We then did what a lot of other guys dont tend to believe or understand. We downgraded the strap size to a 3" x 30' strap. The reason behind this is that, despite the fact that our trucks are oversized and incredibly heavy and we have to buy the appropriate gear to recover ourselves, you will encounter situations where you may be pulled out by a wide range of vehicles and as such, you should also keep this in mind. The 3" strap had more elasticity to it, and as such we were able to take better advantage of the kinetic properties of a thinner strap. Had there been another hummer, or a bigger full-size diesel, or anything along that lines, Id have been able to use the 4" but the lil Jeep was not able to stretch it. Within a couple of tugs we were able to get my truck free, and everyone got back to having a blast.



Use kinetic energy to your benefit (like those killer KERR ropes - my next purchase!), and work harder not smarter. Appropriate straps for the appropriate situation & Vehicles.
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